The Indispensable Marketer · The Show

Two people who lived both sides of the Trust Gap

A CEO and a marketer standing on opposite cliffs with an open gap between them — the Trust Gap

Jacob Baadsgaard and Chad de Lisle sit down every week and talk through what it actually took to build this system, the good, the bad, and the ugly. New episodes bring on other marketing leaders in the middle of the same fight.

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Teaching Episodes

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Teaching

This Is Why You Hate Your Marketing Job

First, do you believe in what you're marketing? Second, can you actually get results?

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Teaching

Your CEO Can’t Tell You Why The Company Exists

How to get a real, signed Vision out of your CEO's head instead of reading tea leaves.

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Teaching

Growth at All Costs Is Costing You the Right Customers

Behind the scenes: When Disruptive Advertising walked away from a $1M contract...

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Interview Episodes

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Interview

I Interviewed the CEO Who Almost Fired Me

Chad and the CEO on the other side of his own near-firing, told from both chairs.

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We Fired 450 Clients in One Year

Why walking away from almost half a client base was the best growth decision Disruptive ever made.

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"We Walked Away From a $1M Client."

The math behind saying no to seven figures, and what it protected instead.

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Why we make this every week

Most marketing education teaches theory. This show is the unfiltered version, the actual arguments, the actual mistakes, the actual fixes, from the two people who lived through building the framework this book teaches.

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